Speculations

(below is an exchange on the

Google blog: Metaphysical Speculations)

speculation 

is the use of the mind

attempting to discover what is possible

to discover..using the mind..

often there seems to be no sense

of limitation..as the endeavor 

indefinitely moves 

on and on..

speculation 

tries to unify the parts

assumed separated..and

we have gone many miles

as speculation lighted the way..

but we now seem to be

at the end of the road built

by speculation..

might we find futility in 

pressing on

at the end of the road...?

CC, et al,

One can be a hard-core Ontological Idealist and a practical materialist. Would not a fully-enlightened medititator who experienced a life-threatening auto accident want an ambulance to take her or him to the hospital emergency room?

I find the persistent either/or logic which is applied grandly and grandiosely across the question to be quite frustrating when, at any location less than the whole enchilada of M@L or God or the Ontological imperative, it is ALWAYS a question of both consciousness and matter and this is why Buddha offered as practical advice, The Middle Way.

I agree that matter is contained higher density consciousness. This creates confusion because to the materialist consensual mindset is looks like consciousness arises out out of matter but this false view based on the reality that matter is consciousness become and made firm into relatively stable form.

Lou,

My problem with that is that there seems to be compromise to produce the middle way.  I think

that perspective is a better approach.  The materialist perspective, the predominant perspective in

science, assumes an independent reality outside of consciousness, aka duality.  The consciousness-

only perspective understands that the material outside is really inside, and actually made of

consciousness.  The appearance of things in both perspectives remains the same, but in the

c-perspective, appearance is understood as appearance, not independence...

Thanks!

CC